Tony Dubetz- Interview 10-1 -10-31 1996
Its just around the corner and you have no place to hide. It knows where you
are, follows you relentlessly and reads your mind. eeeek! And then you wake up.
It was a nightmare and now you really would like to talk to someone. Who to
Anthony Dubetz, author of EASY DREAMS has a special phone line just for you!
the Dream Hot line in Chicago (312) 589-2471 has been helping those puzzled by
dreams for several years. "The main thing is what your think about your
dream", he says, " That is, what you must eliminate the next
day." Overused parts of the personality leave other parts neglected.
"Maybe your dream is actually telling you that you've reached a burn-out
level in your personality. the dream might be getting a little scarier every day
- it may be shouting at you."
Interview conducted via mail...
RCW: When people call up the Hot-Line, what can they expect?
TD: If they ask for an opinion about a dream, I would offer one as if the
dream were my own. (such as) "The dream you introduced the hot-line
interview with tells me to avoid trapping myself or others."
RCW: Freudian dream interpretation is about the reduction of neurosis. Jung's
work is about wholeness and healing. Ullman's techniques lead to insight and
empowerment. How would you characterize your process?
TD: Learning to share the cosmos with dreams.
RCW: In classical therapy there is often nothing said about the dream, the
client is just allowed or encouraged to free associate. When I talk with
psychics, they tell me *all* the meaning in the dream.
Where does your process fall in this scale and what do you feel the teacher's
role is in empowering the dreamer to find his or her own meanings.
TD: The teacher can recognize what the dreamer knows and encourage that
knowledge, for it is empowerment, and there is a place 90 degrees to the left or
right of the dream's location which is the place my process falls.
RCW: You talk about not getting identified with the dream image, can you say
a little more about this?
TD: Like ghost images on our T.V. sets, dream images are not the substantial
part of us but will o' the wisps. Why not invest in the substantial self which
experiences the dream?
RCW: What experiences led you to your ideas and practice?
TD: Precognition and *deja vu*.
RCW: Our society has had both a general disregard and fear of dreams. Mom
says "It's just a dream," and yet we are afraid of what the dream will
reveal about us to a psychiatrist. do you see any changes in this attitude in
the las couple of decades?
TD: I've seen the shedding of "just a dream" attitude and fear of
dreams turn into respect for dreams.
Harry Hunt and others have demonstrated that dreams are important, perhaps
essential, to cognitive theory. Can the understanding of science be of value to
TD: Yes, it has given me encouragement when there was no other, especially
science on missing matter. It helped me to understand existence as light, black
and white, ever changing and no light, both co-eternities.
RCW: It has been about a hundred years now since Freud's Interpretation of
Dreams; do you think dreamwork in the next century will be significantly
different than the 20th Century?
TD: Yes, and due in part to your efforts as well as your mentors, inevitably.
Tony's text, _Easy Dreams- Making Nightmares Pay_, is a 41 page booklet fully
explaining The Dream Hot-Line method and is available for $6.00 send to
Anthony Dubetz, P.O. Box 34934, Chicago IL 60634
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